Chinese culture and racism
I’ll begin this with an anecdote. There are a few people involved, all of whom are my friends:
J – J is interested in Chinese culture and stuff. J started the intro Chinese language sequence last fall. J is white, and kind of a weird and awkward person.
K, X – Two of my closest friends. They are both Chinese.
M – Another good friend of mine, but not as close as K and X. M is Chinese too.
So, a couple of weeks ago, I was playing soccer with M and some other of our friends. After the game, when we were walking back to our rooms, it was observed that everyone except me was Chinese and could speak Mandarin. They started talking to each other in Mandarin. M told me that I should learn Chinese. I protested that this would result in awkward situations of me always wanting my friends to help me. M said that I shouldn’t be worried about this — as long as I wasn’t annoying about it, my friends would love to help me learn Chinese.
Now, I had been planning to study a language next year already. I was thinking about German, because that’s useful for reading maths (especially analytic number theory — Riemann anyone?), but if I switch to finance then German would be useless (and Chinese potentially useful). Chinese is probably harder, but I don’t have any good friends who are fluent in German, whereas many of my friends are fluent in Mandarin. I hadn’t been weighting this factor too heavily, because J tries to go to friends for help, and they all find it very awkward and unpleasant, and I didn’t want to be like that to my friends. But now M is telling me that my friends actually would want to help me — maybe it’s just because J is an awkward person, not because going to Chinese friends for help with Chinese actually is inherently annoying.
So, naturally, I have been thinking about this lately (course sign-ups for next year are coming up), and I talked to K and X about it (separately). They both reacted in exactly the same way — the thought that I would be learning Chinese made them very uncomfortable. They didn’t explicitly advise me against it, but they both obviously didn’t want me to do it.
Now, this was very confusing for me. Why shouldn’t I? The fact that they didn’t try to dissuade me and didn’t give reasons suggests that it’s for their own personal reasons, rather than because they think it’s a bad idea for me. They didn’t warn me that it would be hard and that I wouldn’t succeed, or anything like that. So, I can only imagine that either (a) they fear that I’m going to do what J does and annoy them [this does not apply to X because X only speaks Shanghai and I'd be learning Mandarin], (b) they fear that my attempts to speak Chinese amongst our group of friends as I’m learning it will result in awkward situations [this can apply to X] — J does this sort of thing from time to time, or (c) they are inherently disturbed by the fact that a white person would be learning to speak Chinese.
So, it seems unfair to my friends, who are educated, open-minded thinkers, to make such an accusation as (c). Normally I wouldn’t even think of it. But there are some problems with (a-b). First, and what causes me the most concern, is that M said (a-b) shouldn’t be a concern. What do X and K know that M doesn’t? He knows J. He knows the general Chinese student body here better than X and K do. Also, regarding (a), X and K should know me well enough to know that if they don’t want me to ask them for help, I won’t ask them. I know plenty of other people that I could ask. Like M. And regarding (b), they should know that I’m socially aware enough to recognize that my weak attempts at Chinese in conversation were awkward, and hold myself back from speaking (you learn a lot by just listening, anyway).
I’ve also seen their reactions when J tries to speak Chinese around them. They get these looks of utter disgust on their faces. It’s not just that J said something wrong or had poor inflection and they’re recognizing the error. They’re genuinely repulsed by it.
So, what could it be? I can think of several explanations, but I don’t know enough about Chinese culture to say which it is. I hope someone could enlighten me.
1. Respect for the language. This is the kindest explanation I can think of, and I’ve seen other evidence for it too. The hypothesis is that Chinese have much more respect for their language than we Western boors, and they really are horrified to hear someone butchering it. They don’t want me to learn Chinese because they know that for a long time (possibly forever) I will not be good enough to speak well. They don’t want me to be dishonoring their language by speaking it poorly. And I can understand this, to some extent. If this is the reason, I would be willing to avoid speaking Chinese casually when I wasn’t good enough at it to do the language justice. But why should that stop me from learning it? Why shouldn’t they want me to come to understand and have the same respect for the language as they do? Isn’t other people’s interest in the language an honor for it? Maybe I just don’t understand this…
2. Cultural isolationism. I have seen a lot of evidence for this in the attitudes of many Chinese, Taiwanese, and other East Asian people I’ve talked to. It’s a general attitude that non-Asians can’t understand their culture. One of my good friends in high school once told me about a Korean doctor who falsified lab results in order to enhance his career. We talked a bit about his reasons, and my friend essentially told me that I couldn’t possibly understand because I wasn’t Asian. So my friends don’t want me to learn Chinese because they think that white people (and non-Chinese generally) are unable to properly understand and appreciate Chinese culture, and they are uncomfortable as soon as a foreigner gets serious about it. They don’t care if I have Chinese friends and play Chinese games, but once I’m making a serious effort to learn about and get involved with Chinese culture, they’re against it. I find this attitude repulsive and I really hope that my friends don’t feel this way. I believe that Eastern culture and thought is superior in a number of ways to Western culture and thought, and I’d like to learn and understand more. Why do they want to stop me? Why shouldn’t they share their ideas? How could this possibly harm them? I don’t understand.
3. My friends are assholes, and it’s nothing to do with Chinese culture. This is possible. I should hope I am better than that at making friends, though…
I’d really love to hear anyone’s thoughts about this, especially a non-Asian who has been immersed in Asian culture, or an Asian who has some perspective about my friends’ side of this situation.
March 27, 2008 at 11:05 am
All right, this is my opinion and my opinion only. I believe that your friends aren’t really that good of friends. I moved to the states my freshman year of high school from Germany. I made lots of friends and the ones that really got to know me where interested in the German language. Some even took German classes. When they needed help I was more than happy to sit down and teach them.
I have also taken many cultural diversity classes and in my opinion people are happy when they see trying respect their culture by learning and understanding it. No one is going to get upset because your dialect is off or your butchering a few words. It is more disrespectful to be ignorant than educated.
Last but not least…when we moved to the states one of my Moms best friends in Washington State was Chinese. She used to come over a lot and my sister and I learned words here and there. I don’t believe she felt bad about us asking questions or learning a few words because she did the same to us.
Maybe your friends are just insecure because when they are speaking another language they just don’t want you to know what they are talking about. When my sister and I spoke German in front of other people here in the states my Mom would get so upset. So we stopped because it does disrespect others when they cant understand you.
May 6, 2008 at 11:27 pm
What I am about to write is simply my opinion as based on my subjective interpretations of in-depth personal experiences with the Chinese nation, culture and language. I am a white guy (Canadian of European (Bulgarian) descent) and I speak fluent Mandarin Chinese. I have lived on and off in Taiwan and China for a combined period of four years over the last eight years of my life and I am currently starting my own company in Shanghai. My Chinese language studies began in university, which quickly evolved into my love of the culture and eventual zest to live and work in East Asia and indeed the greater China sphere of influence.
I believe that:
1) Your friends enjoy being able to speak a language that “others” don’t understand. (Chinese people, like other ethnic groups from all corners of the earth, get used to thinking that those of different backgrounds don’t understand what they say. In essence they feel they have a secret language, which can be advantageous in various circumstances. I have heard Chinese people say the most private things when surrounded by non East Asians. I have also witnessed them make rude comments in public, often discussing other people that are walking/standing right beside them. In business meetings/negotiations, whilst talking amongst themselves they have accidentally shared “secret” information with me, not knowing that I speak Mandarin. I for one don’t like to advertise my language skills before I have gotten to know someone to an acceptable degree.)
2) Your friends might have a superiority complex. (Many Chinese believe that they are intellectually superior to other ethnic groups. Many also falsely believe that they are more educated, cultured and flexible in their approach to life’s challenges. The fact that they speak “your” language and you don’t speak “their” language may tend to solidify this complex. If however you learned to speak fluent Mandarin and better understood relevant cultural beliefs, history, philosophies, etc then you will also be able to identify their strengths and as well as their weaknesses. Some people feel compromised when you know what they consider insider information. Unfortunately, you being a Caucasian will generally make you an outsider in the mind of the average East Asian person.)
3) Your friends may also have an inferiority complex. Many Chinese men are insecure in matters relating to sexuality, especially when this subject matter is interpreted in light of international stereotypes. (In East Asia, a substantial proportion of the female population is attracted to foreign men, mostly those of European descent. Walk around the streets of Shanghai and you’ll find a dominant number of advertisements featuring Italian, Spanish, French, German and Slavic models. Go to a nightclub and you’ll find that handsome Caucasian men are considered prized stallions in the eyes of Eastern women. Furthermore, intelligent and attractive Caucasian men who speak Chinese are considered a one in a million catch…)
Perhaps now you understand why your friends may not stimulate you to learn more about their culture and language. That said, perhaps it isn’t because they are not your friends, but because they are unable to overcome their unfounded inertial complexes and hence negatively acculturated insecurities. Don’t worry in time you’ll know more about how they feel about you. Most important, once you learn Mandarin you will have the ability to make friends with many other Chinese people who you wouldn’t have had the chance to meet or know had you not learned the language. You’ll be able to penetrate deeper into the cultural and social fabric of the nation and thus better understand your current friends, your future friends and most importantly yourself. Remember, Chinese people are really not different from other people! Beneath the veil of culture they carry all the negative and positive attributes that are common to humankind.